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  1. #1
    maciek622435
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    Domyślnie Alfa nie kręci

    Witam mam problem z 147 2.0ts selespeed. Auto zgasło podczas jazdy i teraz za nic nie da się jej odpalić. Rozrusznik wogóle nie kręci. Podpiąłem pod komputer i wywaliło błędy p0560 i u1901

  2. #2
    Użytkownik Fachowiec Avatar LukaSS
    Dołączył
    06 2012
    Mieszka w
    Biała Podl./Warszawa
    Auto
    Alfa Romeo 147 JTD 16V 140KM; Yamaha XTZ 800 Super Tenere
    Postów
    2,540

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    To sprawdz co oznaczają te błędy, poszukaj i może znajdziesz na forum odpowiedz

  3. #3
    Użytkownik Maniak resoraków Avatar Anamesh
    Dołączył
    08 2011
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    Bytom
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    Alfa Romeo 159 1.9 JTDM 8V
    Postów
    36

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    P0560 - Napięcie zasilania systemu - usterka , znaczenia drugiego błędu znaleźć nie potrafię niestety

  4. #4
    Użytkownik Romeo
    Dołączył
    09 2012
    Mieszka w
    Kraków Radom
    Auto
    159 1.9 16v q-tronic 2008r
    Postów
    876

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    może ładowanie padło ?

  5. #5
    maciek622435
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    Domyślnie

    kontrolki świecą normalnie po przekręceniu kluczyka za chwile jest takie dziwne kilkukrotne pikanie że się tak wyraże. Do rozrusznika przez ten gruby przewód prąd dochodzi trudno sprawdzić na tym cienkim kablu bo nie ma tam jak włożyć ręki

  6. #6
    Użytkownik Romeo Avatar malin2k5
    Dołączył
    02 2011
    Mieszka w
    Połczyn-Zdrój
    Auto
    Giulietta QV Nero Etna, Alfa Romeo 156 SW '02 BLU VELA, 126p '78
    Postów
    4,105

    Domyślnie

    Wydaję mi się że błąd u1901 ma związek z immobilaiserem lub z czymś takim (elektroniczne zabezpieczenia).
    Ale nie jestem pewny, więc może ktoś się wypowie bardziej zorientowany

    Na pewno błąd U1600 dotyczy immobiliser'a, więc rozpoczynający się na "U" może być powiązany z systemem zabezpieczeń.

    Już mam Błędy "U" związane są z komunikacją sieciową:


    U0001 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus
    U0002 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus - performance problem
    U0003 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus (+) - open circuit
    U0004 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus (+) - voltage low
    U0005 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus (+) - voltage high
    U0006 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus (-) - open circuit
    U0007 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus (-) - voltage low
    U0008 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus (-) - voltage high
    U0009 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, high speed bus (-) - shorted to data bus (+)
    U0010 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus
    U0011 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus - performance problem
    U0012 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus (+) - open circuit
    U0013 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus (+) - voltage low
    U0014 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus (+) - voltage high
    U0015 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus (-)
    U0016 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus (-) - voltage low
    U0017 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus (-) - voltage high
    U0018 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, medium speed bus (-) - shorted to data bus (+)
    U0019 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus
    U0020 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus - performance problem
    U0021 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus (+) - open circuit
    U0022 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus (+) - voltage low
    U0023 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus (+) - voltage high
    U0024 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus (-) - open circuit
    U0025 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus (-) - voltage low
    U0026 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus (-) - voltage high
    U0027 Controller area network (CAN) data bus, low speed bus (-) - shorted to data bus (+)
    U0028 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A
    U0029 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A - performance problem
    U0030 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A (+) - open circuit
    U0031 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A (+) - voltage low
    U0032 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A (+) - voltage high
    U0033 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A (-) - open circuit
    U0034 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A (-) - voltage low
    U0035 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A (-) - voltage high
    U0036 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus A (-) - shorted to data bus A (+)
    U0037 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B
    U0038 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B - performance problem
    U0039 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B (+) - open circuit
    U0040 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B (+) - voltage low
    U0041 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B (+) - voltage high
    U0042 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B (-) - open circuit
    U0043 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B (-) - voltage low
    U0044 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B (-) - voltage high
    U0045 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus B (-) - shorted to data bus B (+)
    U0046 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C
    U0047 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C - performance problem
    U0048 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C (+) - open circuit
    U0049 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C (+) - voltage low
    U0050 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C (+) - voltage high
    U0051 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C (-) - open circuit
    U0052 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C (-) - voltage low
    U0053 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C (-) - voltage high
    U0054 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus C (-) - shorted to data bus C (+)
    U0055 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D
    U0056 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D - performance problem
    U0057 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D (+) - open circuit
    U0058 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D (+) - voltage low
    U0059 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D (+) - voltage high
    U0060 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D (-) - open circuit
    U0061 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D (-) - voltage low
    U0062 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D (-) - voltage high
    U0063 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus D (-) - shorted to data bus D (+)
    U0064 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E
    U0065 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E - performance problem
    U0066 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E (+) - open circuit
    U0067 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E (+) - voltage low
    U0068 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E (+) - voltage high
    U0069 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E (-) - open circuit
    U0070 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E (-) - voltage low
    U0071 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E (-) - voltage high
    U0072 Vehicle area network (VAN) data bus E (-) - shorted to data bus E (+)
    U0073 Control module - data bus Off
    U0100 Data bus, engine control module (ECM) A - no communication
    U0101 Data bus, transmission control module (TCM) - no communication
    U0102 Data bus, transfer box control module - no communication
    U0103 Data bus, gear shift module - no communication
    U0104 Data bus, cruise control module - no communication
    U0105 Data bus, injector control module - no communication
    U0106 Data bus, glow plug control module - no communication
    U0107 Data bus, throttle actuator control (TAC) module - no communication
    U0108 Data bus, alternative fuel control module - no communication
    U0109 Data bus, fuel pump (FP) control module - no communication
    U0110 Data bus, drive motor control module - no communication
    U0111 Data bus, battery energy control module A - no communication
    U0112 Data bus, battery energy control module B - no communication
    U0113 Data bus, emissions critical control information - no communication
    U0114 Data bus, four wheel drive clutch control module - no communication
    U0115 Data bus, engine control module (ECM) B - no communication
    U0121 Data bus, anti-lock brake system (ABS) control module - no communication
    U0122 Data bus, vehicle dynamics control module - no communication
    U0123 Data bus, yaw rate sensor module - no communication
    U0124 Data bus, lateral acceleration sensor module - no communication
    U0125 Data bus, multi-axis acceleration sensor module - no communication
    U0126 Data bus, steering position sensor control module - no communication
    U0127 Data bus, tyre pressure monitor module - no communication
    U0128 Data bus, parking brake control module - no communication
    U0129 Data bus, brake system control module - no communication
    U0130 Data bus, steering effort control module - no communication
    U0131 Data bus, power steering control module - no communication
    U0132 Data bus, suspension ride height control module - no communication
    U0140 Data bus, body control module (BCM) - no communication
    U0141 Data bus, body control module (BCM) A - no communication
    U0142 Data bus, body control module (BCM) B - no communication
    U0143 Data bus, body control module (BCM) C - no communication
    U0144 Data bus, body control module (BCM) D - no communication
    U0145 Data bus, body control module (BCM) E - no communication
    U0146 Data bus, gateway A - no communication
    U0147 Data bus, gateway B - no communication
    U0148 Data bus, gateway C - no communication
    U0149 Data bus, gateway D - no communication
    U0150 Data bus, gateway E - no communication
    U0151 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) control module - no communication
    U0152 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) control module, left - no communication
    U0153 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) control module, right - no communication
    U0154 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) occupant sensing control module - no communication
    U0155 Data bus, instrumentation control module - no communication
    U0156 Data bus, information centre A - no communication
    U0157 Data bus, information centre B - no communication
    U0158 Data bus, head up display - no communication
    U0159 Data bus, parking aid control module A - no communication
    U0160 Data bus, audible alert control module - no communication
    U0161 Data bus, compass module - no communication
    U0162 Data bus, navigation display module - no communication
    U0163 Data bus, navigation control module - no communication
    U0164 Data bus, AC control module - no communication
    U0165 Data bus, AC control module, rear
    U0166 Data bus, auxiliary heater control module - no communication
    U0167 Data bus, immobilizer control module - no communication
    U0168 Data bus, alarm system control module - no communication
    U0169 Data bus, sunroof control module - no communication
    U0170 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor A - no communication
    U0171 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor B - no communication
    U0172 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor C - no communication
    U0173 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor D - no communication
    U0174 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor E - no communication
    U0175 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor F - no communication
    U0176 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor G - no communication
    U0177 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor H - no communication
    U0178 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor I - no communication
    U0179 Data bus, supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor J - no communication
    U0180 Data bus, automatic lighting control module - no communication
    U0181 Data bus, headlamp level control module - no communication
    U0182 Data bus, lamps control module, front - no communication
    U0183 Data bus, lamps control module, rear - no communication
    U0184 Data bus, radio - no communication
    U0185 Data bus, aerial module - no communication
    U0186 Data bus, audio unit output amplifier - no communication
    U0187 Data bus, digital disc player/changer module A - no communication
    U0188 Data bus, digital disc player/changer module B - no communication
    U0189 Data bus, digital disc player/changer module C - no communication
    U0190 Data bus, digital disc player/changer module D - no communication
    U0191 Data bus, television - no communication
    U0192 Data bus, personal computer - no communication
    U0193 Data bus, digital audio control module A - no communication
    U0194 Data bus, digital audio control module B - no communication
    U0195 Data bus, subscription entertainment receiver module - no communication
    U0196 Data bus, entertainment control module, rear - no communication
    U0197 Data bus, telephone control module - no communication
    U0198 Data bus, telematics control module - no communication
    U0199 Data bus, door function control module A - no communication
    U0200 Data bus, door function control module B - no communication
    U0201 Data bus, door function control module C - no communication
    U0202 Data bus, door function control module D - no communication
    U0203 Data bus, door function control module E - no communication
    U0204 Data bus, door function control module F - no communication
    U0205 Data bus, door function control module G - no communication
    U0206 Data bus, convertible top control module - no communication
    U0207 Data bus, moveable roof control module - no communication
    U0208 Data bus, seat adjustment control module A - no communication
    U0209 Data bus, seat adjustment control module B - no communication
    U0210 Data bus, seat adjustment control module C - no communication
    U0211 Data bus, seat adjustment control module D - no communication
    U0212 Data bus, steering column control module - no communication
    U0213 Data bus, mirror control module A - no communication
    U0214 Data bus, remote function actuation - no communication
    U0215 Data bus, door contact switch A - no communication
    U0216 Data bus, door contact switch B - no communication
    U0217 Data bus, door contact switch C - no communication
    U0218 Data bus, door contact switch D - no communication
    U0219 Data bus, door contact switch E - no communication
    U0220 Data bus, door contact switch F - no communication
    U0221 Data bus, door contact switch G - no communication
    U0222 Data bus, electric window motor A - no communication
    U0223 Data bus, electric window motor B - no communication
    U0224 Data bus, electric window motor C - no communication
    U0225 Data bus, electric window motor D - no communication
    U0226 Data bus, electric window motor E - no communication
    U0227 Data bus, electric window motor F - no communication
    U0228 Data bus, electric window motor G - no communication
    U0229 Data bus, heated steering wheel module - no communication
    U0230 Data bus, tailgate control module - no communication
    U0231 Data bus, rain sensor control module - no communication
    U0232 Data bus, side obstacle detection control module, left - no communication
    U0233 Data bus, side obstacle detection control module, right - no communication
    U0234 Data bus, convenience recall module - no communication
    U0235 Data bus, cruise control front distance range sensor - no communication
    U0300 Control module - internal software incompatibility
    U0301 Software incompatibility - engine control module (ECM)
    U0302 Software incompatibility - transmission control module (TCM)
    U0303 Software incompatibility - transfer box control module
    U0304 Software incompatibility - gear shift module
    U0305 Software incompatibility - cruise control module
    U0306 Software incompatibility - injector control module
    U0307 Software incompatibility - glow plug control module
    U0308 Software incompatibility - throttle actuator control (TAC) module
    U0309 Software incompatibility - alternative fuel control module
    U0310 Software incompatibility - fuel pump (FP) control module
    U0311 Software incompatibility - drive motor control module
    U0312 Software incompatibility - battery energy control module A
    U0313 Software incompatibility - battery energy control module B
    U0314 Software incompatibility - four wheel drive clutch control module
    U0315 Software incompatibility - anti-lock brake system (ABS) control module
    U0316 Software incompatibility - vehicle dynamics control module
    U0317 Software incompatibility - parking brake control module
    U0318 Software incompatibility - brake system control module
    U0319 Software incompatibility - steering effort control module
    U0320 Software incompatibility - power steering control module
    U0321 Software incompatibility - suspension ride height control module
    U0322 Software incompatibility - body control module
    U0323 Software incompatibility - instrumentation control module
    U0324 Software incompatibility - AC control module
    U0325 Software incompatibility - auxiliary heater control module
    U0326 Software incompatibility - immobilizer control module
    U0327 Software incompatibility - alarm system control module
    U0328 Software incompatibility - steering position sensor control module
    U0329 Software incompatibility - steering column control module
    U0330 Software incompatibility - tyre pressure monitor module
    U0331 Software incompatibility - body control module A
    U0332 Software incompatibility - multi-axis acceleration sensor module
    U0400 Invalid data received
    U0401 Invalid data received - engine control module (ECM)
    U0402 Invalid data received - transmission control module (TCM)
    U0403 Invalid data received - transfer box control module
    U0404 Invalid data received - gear shift module
    U0405 Invalid data received - cruise control module
    U0406 Invalid data received - injector control module
    U0407 Invalid data received - glow plug control module
    U0408 Invalid data received - throttle actuator control (TAC) module
    U0409 Invalid data received - alternative fuel control module
    U0410 Invalid data received - fuel pump (FP) control module
    U0411 Invalid data received - drive motor control module
    U0412 Invalid data received - battery energy control module A
    U0413 Invalid data received - battery energy control module B
    U0414 Invalid data received - four wheel drive clutch control module
    U0415 Invalid data received - anti-lock brake system (ABS) control module
    U0416 Invalid data received - vehicle dynamics control module
    U0417 Invalid data received - parking brake control module
    U0418 Invalid data received - brake system control module
    U0419 Invalid data received - steering effort control module
    U0420 Invalid data received - power steering control module
    U0421 Invalid data received - suspension ride height control module
    U0422 Invalid data received - body control module
    U0423 Invalid data received - instrumentation control module
    U0424 Invalid data received - AC control module
    U0425 Invalid data received - auxiliary heater control module
    U0426 Invalid data received - immobilizer control module
    U0427 Invalid data received - alarm system control module
    U0428 Invalid data received - steering position sensor control module
    U0429 Invalid data received - steering column control module
    U0430 Invalid data received - tyre pressure monitor module
    U0431 Invalid data received - body control module A

    Ale podanego przez Ciebie nie ma, dobrze odczytałeś?...
    Ostatnio edytowane przez malin2k5 ; 05-04-2013 o 20:49

  7. #7
    Użytkownik Romeo
    Dołączył
    09 2012
    Mieszka w
    Kraków Radom
    Auto
    159 1.9 16v q-tronic 2008r
    Postów
    876

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Napisał malin2k5 Zobacz post
    Wydaję mi się że błąd u1901 ma związek z immobilaiserem lub z czymś takim (elektroniczne zabezpieczenia).
    Ale nie jestem pewny, więc może ktoś się wypowie bardziej zorientowany

    Na pewno błąd U1600 dotyczy immobiliser'a, więc rozpoczynający się na "U" może być powiązany z systemem zabezpieczeń.
    tak czy siak rozrusznik powinien kręcić. albo coś ze stacyjką, aku, albo samym rozrusznikiem jest nie tak,

  8. #8
    Użytkownik Romeo Avatar malin2k5
    Dołączył
    02 2011
    Mieszka w
    Połczyn-Zdrój
    Auto
    Giulietta QV Nero Etna, Alfa Romeo 156 SW '02 BLU VELA, 126p '78
    Postów
    4,105

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Napisał emo94 Zobacz post
    tak czy siak rozrusznik powinien kręcić. albo coś ze stacyjką, aku, albo samym rozrusznikiem jest nie tak,
    Tak czy siak nie doszukałem się nigdzie takiego kodu błędu jaki podał nam kolega

    Nawet na tej stronie...
    http://www.permoveo.ltd.uk/TechnicalResources.aspx
    Ostatnio edytowane przez malin2k5 ; 05-04-2013 o 21:06

  9. #9
    Użytkownik Romeo
    Dołączył
    09 2012
    Mieszka w
    Kraków Radom
    Auto
    159 1.9 16v q-tronic 2008r
    Postów
    876

    Domyślnie

    a wróć, bo masz automatyczną skrzynię biegów ;/

    - - - Updated - - -

    a to ja nie wiem jak uruchomić w takim wypadku. Być może coś się stało z przekaźnikiem (bo takowy występuje w obwodzie rozrusznika). Przekaźnik jest gdzieś w nogach pasażera, obok centralki skrzyni biegów...

  10. #10
    maciek622435
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    Domyślnie

    ten u1901 znalazłem i piszę coś z szyną can ale nic więcej więc nie wiem a spróbuje znaleźć ten przekaźnik jutro

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